From one Mansergh to another

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Sunday February 08, 2009 19:33

by Paul O' Sullivan

paulosullivan01 at gmail dot com

Last week, Martin Mansergh unwittingly gave an insight into the Fianna Fail's attitude toward the opinions of the electorate. His appearance on TV3 was a reminder of his less antagonising sibling.

A senior member of Cork County Council stood aloofly, drumming his fingers against the desk in front of a young audience. A bundle of sheets introducing the new module was passed along steeply sloped rows of seats, upholstered with black leather covering.

The UCC Geography Department lecture hall is cold and antiquated. A nostalgic atmosphere of old academia lingers. The introductory sheet was the usual assemblage of necessary but uninteresting information. Course Name: Town and Regional Planning; Course Lecturer: Mr. Nicholas Mansergh. Et cetera.

For us - the students - taking Town and Regional Planning wasn’t convenient - back to back lecturers on a Wednesday evening that didn’t start until five thirty because the quaintly suave guy who stood before us had his day’s work at County Hall to finish. But the course was interesting, perhaps a novel relief from staring down microscopes at rock-slides in the Geology lab.

With the passing of several Wednesday’s lectures became even more interesting as the lecturer’s idiosyncrasies surfaced; his apparent inability to maintain casual eye contact, the gazing through side windows as he entertained himself – nobody else had much idea where the humour lay - with wry, insightful observations on the Irish planning system. And there was his laugh, a braying sound that made everyone else laugh, partly in bewildered sympathy.

Don’t get me wrong. I liked and learned a lot from the guy. A combination of the subject, his straightforward lecturing style and the aforementioned characteristics made Town and Regional Planning one of those marker points of the weekly slog. He seemed to shoot from the hip with honesty, as if the class was a good opportunity to share his actual thoughts on Irish planning.

From his name alone I was curious to know a little background. Someone said he hailed from Co. Tipperary and had a brother working for Fianna Fáil, had been important in the background of the North for two decades.

I have yet to meet Martin, his brother.

From his appearance on TV3’s Nightly News with Vincent Browne (Tuesday 03rd February) I get the impression he shares particular qualities with his sibling, particularly a low threshold of withstanding urges to speak as he truly thinks or feels. Which is admirable, perhaps few would disagree an injection of this quality into the upper echelons of Irish society would be good medicine. Cast a stone, draw a line in the sand, do something.

At least when a Minister tells his co-panellist there’s only a grain of truth in what they have just stated, the discussion can progress in a definite direction.

What was intolerable was Minister Mansergh’s snide rebuke of the chair, the host for using ‘populist’ arguments. The inference was that Mr. Browne was too intelligent to stoop so far as to quite justifiably question potential resource drains such as the police escorts for Minister’s cars and the abundance of clerical staff in government departments.

Intolerable enough to disgust, to make one seethe. If I had been in the building and heard his remark would have cornered him in the corridor or perhaps keyed his car – if his driver that Mr. Browne was so concerned about was elsewhere.

Again, don’t misunderstand. Martin seems pragmatic and uninterested in the trimmings of public life. His rational explanation of why he needs a driver quietened even Browne, laying the matter to rest. He consistently repeated he could speak only for himself, which to my mind is the sign of a man trying to be as honest as possible.

But with this remark he posted his flag and the flag of his party to the mast with steel-tipped nails and a nail-gun. Apparently, populist arguments are to be taken with the same grain Minister Mansergh allowed his co-panellist.

Those few words uttered cast light on Fianna Fáil’s attitude toward the people they were elected to represent, confirming what many suspect in the first instance; those who govern have no regard for those they govern. Obviously, those fortunate enough not to roam the corridors of Leinster House and state departments cannot have any idea how matters operate. Their arguments, however intellectually sound and practically pro-active, are not for consideration.

Now that I think about it, his brother also used to raise his own volume if those around him did likewise, maybe less audaciously. If mannerisms were reliable indicators the Mansergh boys must be quite close.

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mansergh portrait

by maverick

Sun Feb 08, 2009 20:27

thank you for this thoughtful & thought-provoking portrait of one of the few Protestants still involved with the Dail. the reflective tone is a welcome breath of fresh air on a normally oft-strident, polemic website.

speaking of Mansergh's background, i've always thought it quite ironic that, at one stage in the 80's, there were 3 Jewish TD's for a mere circa 10,000 Jews compared to 3 Church of Ireland TD's for circa 250,000 Protestants....

statistical update

by Eddie

Mon Feb 09, 2009 01:31

Actually the number ten thousand members of the Jewish faith in the republic during the 1980s when there were three Jewish deputies in the Dail is an overestimate. Here is what the wikipedia entry says about the demographics: "The Jewish population of Ireland reached around 5,500 in the late 1940s, but has since (2008) declined to around 2,000, mainly through emigration to larger Jewish communities such as those in the United States, England and Israel."
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Ire...phics

Here's a comprehensive round-up on the past and present state of judaism in Ireland north and south:

http://haruth.com/jw/JewsIreland.html

A radically reverse trend in the republic during the last thirty years has been the huge increase in the muslim numbers. One muslim, a South African asian psychiatrist based in Clare, was elected to the Dail on a Labour ticket but after serving a term did not seek re-election.

Jewish TDs -- and others

by Sean Og

Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:53

The interesting point was that when there were 3 Jewish TDs

they were ,one from FF , one from FG ,and one from Labour

[ M Taylor who was the only one to get a Cabinet post ever ]

Of course the original one Robert Briscoe ,pal of Dev was FF

but never given any Government post by "his friend " Dev

over the many years from 1916 to 1960s and he was

only elected Lord Mayor of Dublin when they had passed him

over too many times before in favour of younger ones and could not

ignore him any longer in the mid 50s .

Basil Booth used to be FF TD and Maurice Dockrell for FG

- both Protestants and there was an

Independent one from Donegal at one time in 40 s and 50 s .

by noel nutley - private

Fri Oct 15, 2010 19:11

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Basil Booth was not a FF TD , it was his brother Lionel

Jewish TDs

by opus diablos - the regressive hypocrite party

Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:42

Maybe we'll get an increase in representation now that they seem to have the green light to clone our passports.

As for Mansergh.Typical patrician condescension; but now that Fianna Fawlty has mastered the dynastic presumption of their established right to govern in perpetuity there should be little danger of incompatibility.
Mansergh strikes me as a prime example of the ability of the educated self-server to convince the lazy and compliant mediacrocy that his expedient rationalisations actually represent a commitment to rationality and reasonabelness.

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