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Top Climate Adviser To Irish Government Admits Climate Change deniers are "winning the propaganda wa

category national | environment | opinion/analysis author Saturday February 06, 2010 06:48author by carbonman - co2taxcon.blogspot.comauthor email co2taxcon at gmail dot com Report this post to the editors

How the Irish Taxpayer is being misled into the necessity of a carbon tax by an agenda of false and exaggerated science by influential scientists and environmental catastrophists.


05/02/2010

Dear Indymedia Ireland

The head of the Irish Climate Analysis and Research Unit (Icarus), Prof John Sweeney, announced to students at a recent University conference in Dublin, that although the reality of man-made climate change was an accepted fact, (according to him), he admitted that the deniers are "winning the propaganda war". He went on to acknowledge that scientists were “lousy” at communicating their ideas to the general public.

“Not having being brought up in the literary and debating societies, scientists are not very good at winning arguments,”

What he fails to see, is that the scientific observations presented by the 'deniers' originate and are largely communicated by climate scientists who have resorted to publishing their own blogs because they have been unfairly and unscientifically silenced by the IPCC's unscientific agenda and powerful influence on Government funding, Green Industry and the new cash rich world of Carbon Trading. He goes on to say...

“We are facing a very articulated, very well-rehearsed and a very well-expanded set of arguments. We have to give credit where it is due.

Prof Sweeney is one of the contributing authors and review editors of the IPCC's Nobel Prize winning Fourth Assessment Report, at the centre of the recent embarrassing 'Glacier Gate' scandal. As the head of ICARUS he advises the Irish Environmental Protection Agency on future climate predictions which go towards the making of Government Climate policy and carbon tax policy. He recently addressed the Irish Governments Joint Committee on Climate Change along with the Director of FOE (Friends of the Earth) Ireland, who aggressively campaign for Government action against Man Made Climate Change. Prof Sweeney is also a member of the board of Directors of FOE Ireland. One of his most recent predictions involves a temperature increase this century of up to 2 degrees, including the possibility of droughts in the wettest country in Europe.

Rather than confidently resting on the so called accepted facts of the evidence which he claims to possess in order to predict the future, he concerns himself with belittling recent reactions to false and misleading science from the IPCC report which he helped to assemble as “blown out of proportion”. He clearly doesn't understand the gravity of these errors in relation to the integrity of his research and results.

“They [sceptics] are winning the science communication war at the moment.” He told students that climate sceptics have marshaled a small number of arguments which sound scientifically plausible to back up their beliefs that man-made global warming is not happening.

So here we have a Professor who is also a Government adviser and an environmental campaigner, unable to see that the integrity of the science of Man Made Climate Change is indeed in serious trouble, and all he can do with his heightened position is attempt to discredit the sceptics, like some kind of university debating competition. Where is the dignity and humility of our trusted scientific process gone? This is not the behavior of a confident scientist supported by verifiable scientific facts and it's certainly not the actions one would expect from a top Climate scientist who acts as a reliable adviser for future Government policy making at the Taxpayers expense.

The real victory here is not the victory of words but the victory of science and scientists with true sceptical inquiring minds and the integrity to stand up against repressive forces who would rather they weren't heard. It appears Prof Sweeney represents this repressive force working in Ireland today by his lack of open and healthy scientific debate and It is most distressing that he is held up as an expert in this field teaching future scientists, only to dismiss any challenge to his authority which is clearly compromised by his associations with distorted institutions and scientifically ignorant environmentalists.

"The only thing more dangerous than ignorance is arrogance." — Albert Einstein

Regards

Carbonman

co2taxcon.blogspot.com

In relation to and including extracts from The Irish Times 1/ 30/2010http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0130/1....html

http://www.epa.ie/downloads/pubs/climatechange/name,273....html

Related Link: http://co2taxcon.blogspot.com/2010/02/top-climate-adviser-to-irish-government.html

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Misunderstanding? (about how science works)     Mike Novack    Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:30 
   Tibet Temperature 'Highest Since Records Began'     Astro Boy    Sat Feb 06, 2010 19:34 
   The climate denial industry is out to dupe the public. And it's working     Astro Boy    Sat Feb 06, 2010 19:50 
   plannets heating up     spaceman    Sat Feb 06, 2010 20:06 
   It's heating up alright     Cian    Sun Feb 07, 2010 00:31 
   Man Made Global Warming climate scientists are history     James    Sun Feb 07, 2010 05:40 
   The slippery eel     Blazes Boylan    Sun Feb 07, 2010 15:41 
   this may be of interest to readers     CrapNTrade    Sun Feb 07, 2010 16:08 
   New Mistake Found in UN Climate Report     Concerned    Sun Feb 07, 2010 17:20 
 10   As Sea Level Rises So Does The Level Of Climate Change Denial     Astro Boy    Sun Feb 07, 2010 17:51 
 11   Denial industry     Blazes B    Sun Feb 07, 2010 20:50 
 12   Denialism/Alarmism     Hubris    Mon Feb 08, 2010 00:46 
 13   Are AGW-Alarmist scientist engaging in deliberate Fraud?     Hubris    Mon Feb 08, 2010 01:14 
 14   5oo Peer-reviewed papers supporting the so called "Deniers"     James    Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:20 
 15   A question on fossil fuel burning     John B    Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:05 
 16   Denial Industry Sunvert a Scientist     Astro Boy    Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:16 
 17   Assumptions masquerading as Fact?     Hubris    Mon Feb 08, 2010 17:35 
 18   Correction     Hubris    Mon Feb 08, 2010 21:18 
 19   effect of Global Warming on Tree Growth     Astro Boy    Mon Feb 08, 2010 21:28 
 20   regarding: Sea Levels . .. .     Hubris    Mon Feb 08, 2010 21:48 
 21   History of the Climatic Research Unit     Questioner    Tue Feb 09, 2010 00:27 
 22   Global Warming theory in big trouble     Declan Cullen    Tue Feb 09, 2010 20:32 
 23   Well Hubris     John B    Tue Feb 09, 2010 22:55 
 24   Russians . . . .     Hubris    Wed Feb 10, 2010 00:45 
 25   The Russians are still about....     Hubris    Wed Feb 10, 2010 01:53 
 26   Fabricated quote used to discredit climate scientist     Astro Boy    Wed Feb 10, 2010 13:11 
 27   ACTUAL QUOTE by a leading Climate 'scientist'     Questioner    Wed Feb 10, 2010 15:35 
 28   Scary Quotes     Questioner    Wed Feb 10, 2010 15:58 
 29   Google Video Link     Questioner    Wed Feb 10, 2010 16:03 
 30   Do we want to ignore climate change and risk losing all this?     Astro Boy    Sun Feb 14, 2010 18:35 
 31   Magnitude verses Cost     james    Tue Feb 16, 2010 00:58 
 32   Abiotic Oil     Me    Fri Mar 19, 2010 21:55 
 33   Oil conglomerate 'secretly funds climate change deniers'     Astro Boy    Wed Mar 31, 2010 13:50 
 34   cru funding from Oil Co's     HB    Wed Mar 31, 2010 18:33 
 35   That's easy, Me.     Chemist.    Wed Mar 31, 2010 18:57 
 36   CRU funded by Oil Co's     HB    Wed Mar 31, 2010 21:17 
 37   Bullying, Lies And The Rise Of Right-Wing Climate Denial     Ajax    Wed Mar 31, 2010 22:51 
 38   Bullying, Lies And The Rise Of Global Warming Alarmists     HB    Thu Apr 01, 2010 00:11 
 39   Science is Self Correcting.     Scientist.    Thu Apr 01, 2010 08:53 
 40   How scientific....     Logician    Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:16 
 41   To Logician.     Scientist.    Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:54 
 42   @scientist     Logician    Thu Apr 01, 2010 13:22 
 43   an exampe of the 'Scientific Method'     Questioner    Thu Apr 01, 2010 18:03 
 44   East Anglia climate scientists cleared of manipulation     ASTRO bOY    Thu Apr 01, 2010 18:34 
 45   Nature's Laws.     Scientist    Sat Apr 03, 2010 08:23 
 46   a 'Slow inexorable' herd of Elephants, 'thundering' over the hill?!     HB    Sat Apr 03, 2010 15:08 
 47   Just an Analogy     Scientist.    Sat Apr 03, 2010 17:35 
 48   Hysterical analogies     HB    Sat Apr 03, 2010 17:56 
 49   Truth wins in Science.     Scientist.    Tue Apr 06, 2010 18:50 
 50   Some 'Scientist' you are     HB    Tue Apr 06, 2010 19:04 
 51   Simple Question.     Scientist    Tue Apr 06, 2010 19:52 
 52   Oh dear     HB    Tue Apr 06, 2010 20:36 
 53   Sea Ice Satellites tell their own story     Questioner    Sat Apr 10, 2010 23:31 
 54   Love Flattery.     Scientist.    Wed Apr 14, 2010 18:21 
 55   'No malpractice' by climate unit     Dr Doom    Thu Apr 15, 2010 13:54 
 56   'Lord Oxburgh'? 'Independent'?     FSB!    Thu Apr 15, 2010 14:00 
 57   But...     Curious    Thu Apr 15, 2010 14:04 
 58   Oxburgh is 'damaged goods'     FSB!    Thu Apr 15, 2010 14:17 
 59   But, But     Curious    Thu Apr 15, 2010 14:28 
 60   flawed 'investigation'     HB    Thu Apr 15, 2010 16:42 
 61   a more up-to-date view of Lord Oxburgh     HB    Thu Apr 15, 2010 16:52 
 62   Regarding Ice     Questioner    Thu Apr 15, 2010 17:39 
 63   A bit Pedantic.     Word-Smith.    Sat Apr 17, 2010 07:37 
 64   Learn to read     Questioner    Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:07 
 65   Glaciers melting in Peru     HB    Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:19 
 66   Guesswork.     Scientist.    Sat Apr 17, 2010 13:41 
 67   more hysterics from 'teh Scientist'     HB    Sat Apr 17, 2010 16:53 
 68   Soar Skywards.     Physicist.    Sun Apr 18, 2010 18:26 
 69   Because?     HB    Sun Apr 18, 2010 20:24 
 70   Guess What?     HB    Sun Apr 18, 2010 21:44 
 71   Off You Go.     Physicist.    Sun Apr 18, 2010 21:53 
 72   Predictions vs reality     HB    Sun Apr 18, 2010 22:01 
 73   Ya think, genius?     HB    Sun Apr 18, 2010 22:09 
 74   Weather and Climate are 'Chaotic'     HB    Sun Apr 18, 2010 22:40 
 75   Look up Hubbert King and Peak Oil     Frank Adam    Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:47 
 76   One Percent.     Scientist.    Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:23 
 77   Not likely today     Loki    Mon Apr 19, 2010 14:16 
 78   Why the flight ban     Pegasus    Tue Apr 20, 2010 13:16 
 79   only 24 hr late     HB    Tue Apr 20, 2010 13:46 
 80   Models are notoriously unreliable - ask anyone in the fashion industry     HB    Tue Apr 20, 2010 14:05 
 81   In The Real world     Pegasus    Tue Apr 20, 2010 14:07 
 82   Some Actual Data     Pegasus    Tue Apr 20, 2010 14:12 
 83   Real Reality     HB    Tue Apr 20, 2010 16:07 
 84   Real Data     HB    Tue Apr 20, 2010 16:20 
 85   vegetable oils are NOT at all 'carbon neutral'     HB    Tue Apr 20, 2010 16:31 
 86   Aer Lingus Flight circling Shannon     HB    Tue Apr 20, 2010 16:45 
 87   BA now sending up test flights around ireland     HB    Tue Apr 20, 2010 20:33 
 88   Large-scale NATO Air Exercise over European Skies: April 12th to 22nd     HB    Wed Apr 21, 2010 00:36 
 89   Data for Arctic Sea Ice Extent - April 2010     HB    Wed Apr 21, 2010 01:09 
 90   Superb Machinery + Mother Luck.     Engineer.    Wed Apr 21, 2010 14:01 
 91   Former test pilot recalls flying through volcanic ash     Loki    Wed Apr 21, 2010 14:36 
 92   All moot now     hb    Wed Apr 21, 2010 15:04 
 93   The next act?     Pegasus    Wed Apr 21, 2010 15:32 
 94   Jump.     Scientist.    Wed Apr 21, 2010 16:45 
 95   Met office models seem to have got it wrong . . . again     hb    Thu Apr 22, 2010 04:02 
 96   academic finally forced to follow the law on freedom of information     hb    Thu Apr 22, 2010 04:05 
 97   Show Your Cards hb.     Scientist.    Thu Apr 22, 2010 08:44 
 98   RAF Typhoon training halted as ash found in engine     Pegasus    Thu Apr 22, 2010 19:14 
 99   Selective quotation     HB    Fri Apr 23, 2010 00:48 
 100   Earlier Butterfly Emergence Linked to Climate Change!!     Climate Scientist    Sun Apr 25, 2010 14:47 
 101   Oh Dear.     Scientist.    Mon Apr 26, 2010 15:17 
 102   Famous Answer.     Scientist.    Mon Apr 26, 2010 17:36 
 103   Warming cause of early tree leafing     Hypatia.    Mon Apr 26, 2010 19:30 
 104   Krakatoa.     Scientist    Tue Apr 27, 2010 19:45 


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