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Turkish Prime Minister confronts Shimon Peres at Davos

category international | anti-war / imperialism | other press author Friday January 30, 2009 18:26author by Miriam Report this post to the editors

Unlikely hero of the hour

There may be many things about the Turkish Prime Minister that people find objectionable but his challenge to Peres at Davos yesterday is surely not one of them. When he was prevented from being given equal time to Peres, he left the conference completely and has returned to an appreciative welcome in Turkey where feelings are running very high about the slaughter in Gaza.

A transcript of the moment in the debate leading up to his departure has been posted on UKurnet:

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m51382&hd=&size=1&l=e

During his address he referred to the jazz musician Gilad Atzmon, a self described Palestinian ex Zionist originally from Israel, who is probably one of the most controversial and bravest of those confronting the role of Judaism in the treatment of Palestinians. This is his 'politiks' page below - a treasure trove of interesting writing - and debates with others on the anti war left. Atzmon has upset many secular Jewish people who oppose Israel's actions in Palestine - and one Indymedia collective has been directly involved - and criticised heavily - for refusing to delete some of his posts:

http://www.gilad.co.uk/politiks.htm

Back to Erdogan, though. Naturally most reports of his departure have been as muted as possible though invariably described as 'storming off'. Actually, he simply stood up and calmly left. There was no 'storming' involved.

Al Jazeera English have a better report of the incident than most - though the 'storming' virus got into their reportage as well:

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2009/01/200913....html

author by Miriampublication date Sun Feb 01, 2009 16:54author address author phone Report this post to the editors

'I'm a proud self-hating Jew'. Atzmon castigates the supremacist nature of Judaism and the refusal of its adherents to recognise the insult and danger it inevitably give rise to - the concept of 'a chosen people' is complete at odds with a 'love they neighbour' outlook.

http://www.gisborneherald.co.nz/html/Articles/ArticlesP...=8879

author by Jimpublication date Fri Jan 30, 2009 21:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

That's rich from the Turks who have brutally crushed the Kurdish people for decades and who have launched military incursions into Northern Iraq following bombings and guerilla campaigns in Turkish territory.

 
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