Meath on Track: Navan Clonsilla Railway Photo Survey

by Commuter Mon Oct 23, 2006 13:41

A chronology of Navan rail promises:

by john mcdermott - removefiannafail Mon Oct 23, 2006 21:46

Yes, the original right of way is pretty much intact ,and could be compulsorily purchased for a fraction of the cost of the Airport metro madness.
It would also enrich the "Bovale boys" the (Bailey Brothers) Aherns best pals and Fianna Fail's whiparound helpers,who own huge land banks out that direction and have recently paid a 20 million euro settlement to the exchequer for tax arrears. So what about it Bertie? Everybody comes out a winner-including the suffering residents of Clonsilla. Dunboyne etc.!

by A scandal, defo Mon Oct 23, 2006 23:14

Yes. But the question remains why the route wasn't developed before now. Everywhere else in the county with a spare corner of a field has been developed, but somehow the alignment has managed to remain virtually unpopulated all the way from Navan to Dunboyne.

The developments in Meath have been in all of the wrong places, scattered shot-gun like.

Either the 2002 Ove Arup report is acted upon or this link is going to be a dud promise for ever more.

by C Murray Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:12

The public fanfare of the restoration programme was on the radio a few months back, and I apologise
for being vague about the details but after the interviewer (who I think was Hook) cut through
the bullshit by Cullen the brass tacks of the situation were that before the next general
election only a few Kilometres of the track will be done.

These will facilitate the burgeoning urban sprawl (dedicated FF voters) and not the people
of Navan , in any way, shape or form.

The N3 meantime is taking an urban sprawl- commuters from Dublin , the Land
Grab round the M3 will facilitate re-zoning fro more private houses- whilst vast tracts
of ex-social housing estates are being sold for high profits to the developers
who are nodding to social housing whilst profiteering from the land prices in
the centre.

This corruption in relation to bad-planning, profiteering and benefiting the rich , creating
low% mortgages and reducing the necessity of social housing is creating issues
that cause the artificially inflated property market and the future social problems.

Meanwhile Navan and the area round the M3 patently does not have the infrastructure
for the Urban sprawl, people cannot afford houses, the railway restoration is subject to the same
lobbying interests and corruption and they are putting a road where it is not wanted or needed.

=FF/PD corruption.
=Bad Planning.
=social deprivation
=Mortgage repayment problems
=Increased petrol usage
= refusal to commit intelligently to public transport.

= ye get what you vote for and apparently some people are happy to have that shower in the Dail.

by Commuter Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:41

Is this what you mean C Murray?

by C Murray Tue Oct 24, 2006 14:33

But I can see a vicious circle a mile away.

Artifiical property price infletion puts land at a premium. Its for kick-backs and tax right offs.
It deprives people of homes, it creates urban sprawl. Meath is the receptacle for Urban
sprawl, hence a new road (tolled) services-re-zoning, property developers and the starvation of
public transport infrastructure in favour of the private car.

Why emphasise the private car and the tolled road at the expense of proper urban development
and an intelligent transporation system which is publically funded?

Reliance on petrol and urbanising countryside is the name of the game-because there is huge profit in it. How many property developers gain from the re-zoning round the M3, ordinary folks pay the road, get owned by the banks and have to live with the health issues created by a lifestyle of high commuting, high creche fees , low on services . We have seen this before in Lucan and Adamstown.
Little US Urban sprawls in rural areas- someone is making a lot of cash out of our land and depriving people of basis housing and choosing where to live.

The railway was not prioritiesd by the state because the cronies are uninterested.
The railway is now prioritised because it will be an election issue for the dub commuters
who will travel down the few Kilometres of track Martin Cullen is squeezing out of the money belt.

He has not invested in buses.
He supports the car culture.
He supports the re-zoners.

by Commuter Tue Oct 24, 2006 15:34

But at least Adamstown is getting a station, and the kildare Route Project which has already recieved a railway order will double the tracks out to it from 2 to 4..

Ironically, a brand new development like Adamstown will be much better served that any of the towns in central Meath.

In fairness it isn't all bad news for the Navan rail link as long as Meath County Council start to work towards facilitating the railway.

The county development plan will make or break this project for this generation of Dulchies

by Red Marker Tue Oct 24, 2006 16:39

Adamstown gets a rail-link because it is an example of Irish Corruption in action.

There is a large aspirational SUV class there (FF/PD)

It is a vote grabber.

A certain Td, (now deceased )- friend of the lobbyists and corrupters drew a road route
with two red markers in a pub near Carrickmines. It went through the castle complex
( The guiness, you know)

The same TD planned and Made money from Lucan- no schools/playgrounds/health services.

If ye are under the illusion that this corrupt regime are anything but the inheritors and apologists
of the Haughey era, ye are delusive.

Navan will not get a railway until 2011.

It's getting a road. Which will be tolled. Which is to feed the Dublin Urban sprawl and the
people who are buying re-zoning lands on the route.

by Commuter Tue Oct 24, 2006 18:06

It ain't 2011 - it's 2015.

And in 1999, it was 2004.

And in 2000, it was 2010.

Nothing has changed to make 2015 likely.

I didn't know that about Adamstown's origins.

Pity, because compared to what has been happening, say in Co. Cavan, it's not badly planned.

At least it is getting a rail link.

by Meath on Track Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:35

Photo montage of the reinstated Harcourt street railway, now the Sandyford LUAS.

Despite government claims that an alternative route could be selected for reinstatement of the Navan Clonsilla railway, this is highly unlikely.

The Harcourt street railway reinstatement would support this.

The Miltown viaduct (aka the Nine Arches)