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Friday August 25, 2006 12:25
by John O'Neill - Finglas Anti Bin Tax Campaign
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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15If they are entitled to a waiver why don't they just apply like the other 42,000 households who have done so?
If people are entitled to pay income tax why then aren't their bins collected as they are entitled to?
..Because despite the oft repeated claims, you're income tax does NOT go to city and county councils to fund refuse collection. But I don't expect you to accept this.
..Because despite the oft repeated claims, you're income tax does NOT go to city and county councils to fund refuse collection. But I don't expect you to accept this.
'Binworker' -
Rates were abolished in 1976 as "unconstitutional" and , as a result , VAT was increased by two-and-a-half per cent to help compensate local authorities for the ensuing shortfall in their finances . When the bin tax was introduced , VAT was not reduced accordingly . In effect , people are being expected to pay twice for this one service .
If , as you suggest , local authorities are not in receipt of the extra VAT finances , or part thereof , that money must be 'floating' around the system . Find it . But do not expect that everyone will be willing to pay twice for any one service .
Sharon .
No Sharon, the Labour Party in coalition gave local authorities the power to charge for a service in 1983.
For years the state owned all public transport, funded by the tax payer, but we were obliged to pay bus and rail fares. We owned Telecom Eireann, but we paid for phone calls, if we could get a phone! The list goes on !
Rares were abolished after the 1977 election. Don't kid yourself that bin collection was ever free to the householder. Find a decent cause to indulge your anger.
Ah i see you have this problem in Ireland. We used to have the socialist system that was doing all the things that no one else wanted to do. It allowed you do all except what you wanted to do. We got rid the Higgins and the daly's and the Trotskyists and all the Socialists and its is brilliant now. Pays up or else you sillies
No Sharon, the Labour Party in coalition gave local authorities the power to charge for a service in 1983.
For years the state owned all public transport, funded by the tax payer, but we were obliged to pay bus and rail fares.
And did you pay twice for one trip to town on a bus/train , 'Binworker' ?
We owned Telecom Eireann, but we paid for phone calls, if we could get a phone!
Similarly : did you pay twice for the one telephone call ?
The list goes on !
...as does the reply that it is a nonsense to be expected to pay twice for the one service .
Rares were abolished after the 1977 election. Don't kid yourself that bin collection was ever free to the householder.
Of course it was never a "free" service , 'Binworker' , nor should it be expected that it should be a "free" service ! I believe that you are deliberately avoiding the issue here .
Find a decent cause to indulge your anger.
By which you probably mean a 'cause' that will not go against the 'system' . To save your embarrassment , no doubt , as you come across to me as a genuine 'Yes' man . Sorry , but no can do !
Sharon .
Yes that's right you got rid of all the Trotskyists, but that was when you were behind the Iron curtain wasn't it? When they were taken for little trips out to secluded wooded areas for talking about a more democratic form of Socialism.
As for how brilliant Bulgaria is,
Bulgaria has been effected by massive unemployment for the past sixteen years and even though it has fallen it is still nowhere near what it was pre 1990.
The average salary in Bulgaria is about $200 per month.
As for great, well in fact much more of Bulgaria's economy is controlled by the public sector than it is in Ireland, just watch how many more things you'll be paying for out of your own pocket once you join the EU.
Of course the Bulgarian economy is so threatened by corruption and organised crime it could collapse before you ever join the EU.
Of course not joining the EU would not be a bad thing. If you do join just watch how quickly all of your best and brightest leave.
ps. If industry paid their taxes it could be put back into the communities they so readily exploit and we wouldn't be burdened with bin charges, road tolls etc. etc.
The fact is that in the eighties we weren't charged for these things as there was still some semblance of the responsibility of local authorities to provide services.
Since the neo-liberal bus rolled into town it's all SELL, SELL, SELL.
If you actually read the report you would see that John said the people with waivers were collected. I assume the point he was making is that if you add the waivers to the non payers the MAJORITY are not paying.
If binworker wants to know why can I suggest he asks his workmates as everyone knows they refuse to pay as well.
Or perhaps in future put your real job on indymedia.
The Anti Bin Tax campaign is alive a struggling in many parts of the city. Its now time to reinvigorate the campaign and rally those who have gone into hybernation. Lets try to get it going outside of the City Council to other council areas.
You made my point, Sharon. If as a taxpayer I was paying for CIE and Telecom, among other state bodies, and was then paying bus and phone charges, clearly by your reasoning I was paying twice for these services. Did you refuse to pay bus/rail fares? Or do you just attribute this phenomenon to an easy target like bin charges?
My job isn't that important Eoin, I thought this was on open forum. Or perhaps you have to conform to a particular ideology to submit to these themes. If so, I apologise.
Why didn't you call yourself pro double tax worker
I'm devastated by your cutting wit Eoin. I think I'll just have to retire from the debate.
Actually I forgot to mention, IMPACT and SIPTU have negotiated a deal whereby binworkers in the city council can pay the bin charge, including any arrears, through their wages.
Anyway, my best wishes to the struggle!
You made my point, Sharon. If as a taxpayer I was paying for CIE and Telecom, among other state bodies, and was then paying bus and phone charges, clearly by your reasoning I was paying twice for these services.
Those paying tax pay , in the first instance , to establish/set-up CIE etc: I have no problem with that , and no issue with it .
Those wishing to avail of CIE etc pay as they do so , in order that the service be maintained : no problem , no issue , for me , with that .
However - when those paying for a service are told that payment for that particular service will be taken via a rates payment only to be told , years later , that to do so is , in fact , 'unconstitutional' , and , as a result , that that payment would then be collected by a VAT increase - fair enough ; you are not now paying through your rates , but are paying , instead , through the VAT increase .
Then you are told that , whereas the VAT increase will be staying in place , you will have to pay again for that particular service .....
- that I do have a problem , and an issue , with .
Did you refuse to pay bus/rail fares?
If I was already paying for those fares through a VAT increase , then I would object . Who would'nt ...?
Or do you just attribute this phenomenon to an easy target like bin charges?
This campaign is anything but "easy " . It is only "easy " on those who conform .
My job isn't that important Eoin, I thought this was on open forum. Or perhaps you have to conform to a particular ideology to submit to these themes. If so, I apologise.
Perhaps you would be better to apologise for introducing the issue of job description , 'Binman' .
Sharon .
why is there no mention of recycling in any of the comments or articles about bin tax?. we put so much effort and people power in galway to push for a decent recycling system. dublin and cork are so backword in comparison-they dont even take plastic or glass from your door. why arent they campainers dumping clean plastics on dublin council?