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Agents Provocateurs

category dublin | summit mobilisations | opinion/analysis author Tuesday May 04, 2004 17:40author by Brian Report this post to the editors

We all met them on Mayday, we might not have noticed but we did. So lets reveal them.

On May 1st we all met Agents Provocateurs. At the bring the noise demo i saw two and spoke to one.

What did they want? The two i saw appeared to be provoking infighting between protesters, running into people, pushing people and what not.

The one i spoke to wanted to know if i was "involved with the riot", apparently he had "just seen it on his television". This wasnt during the clashes, this was halfway into town after the police had fallen back. He asked other strange questions like, "What did i plan to do once i got into town", go to bed was my answer. How did i know he was a cop, he came out of nowhere as three to four strange cars followed us up the road towards mountjoy. They had lights off or dimmed with four-five passengers, a garda helicopter appeared above. We were in a crowd but if we were alone who knows what could have happened.

This guy was strange though. He spoke in a wicklow accent (hardly a crime, but he certainly didnt travel up from wicklow after seeing the 'riots' on TV). He had an ear piece in his ear which he actively tried to hide, he wasnt interested in what our opinion was regarding the outbreak of the clashes nor what we thought of the cops, in fact he seemed to side with the cops when pushed on this. He was only interested in finding out what we had done, were planning to do and where we were going.

He didnt seem happy with our answers and he made a phone call and excused himself. He walked over to other protesters at the back with us but then seemed to fade into the line of cars coming up the rear of the protesters.

This i am sure is not a unique case. Im sure people on this site came across this guy as well as others on the march.

What is important now is proving to the media and people that these agents provocateurs were in the crowd. Which got me and a good friend of mine thinking, remember a while back RTE played some footage of Riot Police training in templemore or wherever they were training. In this footage was about 20-25 riot cops and 30 or so rioters. The footage was used on the joke publicity/propaganda video that was posted to Indymedia before Mayday and which made the examiner frontpage.

If the makers of that video or for that matter anyone with footage of that RTE report could post images of the 'rioters' in that RTE report to indymedia again then perhaps we could start comparing photo's of supposed agents provocateurs with this footage. Im fairly sure we may find that some of the 'rioters' in that footage were the agents provocateurs we all met on May 1st.

Makes sense, if the state were training Riot Cops then would it not make sense to train their agents provocateurs at the same time?

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   suggestion     reader    Tue May 04, 2004 17:49 
   good idea     Brian    Tue May 04, 2004 17:51 
   Questions     reader    Tue May 04, 2004 18:02 
   ANOTHER AGENT PROV STORY     BONZO    Tue May 04, 2004 19:17 
   not a good idea     neil    Tue May 04, 2004 19:39 
   I was agreded by an apparent undercover cop     IsK    Tue May 04, 2004 19:50 
   Inverse Surveillance     from a blog i found    Tue May 04, 2004 19:50 
   Again,I'm not sure...     neil    Tue May 04, 2004 19:54 
   Arrestees could seek disclosure of records relating to APs and the Mayday protests     Eoin Dubsky    Tue May 04, 2004 20:03 
 10   why cops throwing stones...     IsK    Tue May 04, 2004 20:23 
 11   man in black leather coat     joy division    Tue May 04, 2004 20:28 
 12   How about a different view?     James    Tue May 04, 2004 20:40 
 13   oooh ooh     ha ha ha    Tue May 04, 2004 20:51 
 14   Calm down!     reader    Tue May 04, 2004 21:01 
 15   difficult questions     rehash    Tue May 04, 2004 21:05 
 16   On the internet, nobody knows you're a ban-garda.     James    Tue May 04, 2004 21:33 
 17   Are you calling me a liar     Brian    Tue May 04, 2004 23:36 
 18   Response     reader    Tue May 04, 2004 23:39 
 19   buy a bridge?     ?    Tue May 04, 2004 23:40 
 20   response to isk     neil    Tue May 04, 2004 23:59 
 21   Mad Mac Sez:     mad mac    Wed May 05, 2004 00:10 
 22   Agent Provocateurs, Me Arse     toneore    Wed May 05, 2004 02:30 
 23   Check this one out     longdistancewalker    Wed May 05, 2004 04:14 
 24   bullshit     Crumbs    Wed May 05, 2004 10:56 
 25   Pull the other one     Isk. Student.    Wed May 05, 2004 14:47 
 26   Paranoid People.     Cop on    Wed May 05, 2004 18:52 
 27   undercover cops     la la    Wed May 05, 2004 19:17 
 28   agent provacteurs.     C.    Wed May 05, 2004 19:33 
 29   Infiltrators.     Drbinoche    Wed May 05, 2004 21:41 
 30   Blind Alleys     Rob    Sat May 08, 2004 03:40 
 31   We hate it when others are successful     Morrissey Fan    Sat May 08, 2004 08:04 
 32   it's there...     Sizzlechest    Sun May 09, 2004 02:53 


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