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IAWM support Muslim Right to wear Headscarves in French Schools

category national | rights, freedoms and repression | opinion/analysis author Saturday January 17, 2004 13:57author by David Report this post to the editors

The Irish anti war movement has decided to throw its weight behind the defence of institutional religion and the right to "choose" whether or not to display religous symbols in French schools.

I think this is a very controversial decision. (decided by who?)

Muslim females do not have the right to choose whether or not to wear the headscarves as it is required by their religion. Many people, myself included, consider all kinds of institutional religions to be little more than a method of controlling people, that most people never really get to choose their religion, their beliefs are rarely allowed to be questioned, all religions are assumed to be beyond criticism in open discourse.
The decision of the french government to secularise their education system doesn't restrict the freedom of muslim Girls, it replaces one authority with another, but a ban on headscarves might allow the girls to develop identities individual to themselves and not just be seen as faceless members of the Islamic tradition.

I also wonder how Marxists could take such action to protect the power of religion, "the opiate of the masses" and how the "leadership" can take such a controversial stance without consulting its membership?

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Another Front IS Possible     Pseudo-Nam    Sat Jan 17, 2004 14:14 
   I support the last European decisions legislating on provocative use /religious symbols in Education     ipsiphi    Sat Jan 17, 2004 14:18 
   The right to freedom from Religious Provocation is a Republican Right     the ipsiphi    Sat Jan 17, 2004 14:28 
   IAWM     Anti War    Sat Jan 17, 2004 15:27 
   Wha???     Moi    Sat Jan 17, 2004 16:13 
   Let us clarify the wording first.     ipsiphi    Sat Jan 17, 2004 16:19 
   single issue campaign     pat c    Sat Jan 17, 2004 18:22 
   One Solution Revolution     Pseudo-Nam    Sat Jan 17, 2004 19:09 
   the wording..     David    Sat Jan 17, 2004 20:14 
 10   I note this event was not flagged here in calendar or on newswire     ec    Sat Jan 17, 2004 20:54 
 11   me     me    Sat Jan 17, 2004 21:30 
 12   Betrayed     Oblesik    Sat Jan 17, 2004 21:57 
 13   IAWM?     person or persons unknown    Sat Jan 17, 2004 22:43 
 14   Another world is possible ....     khilafah    Sat Jan 17, 2004 22:44 
 15   The French law is not anti-Islamic     Helal ben Shahar    Sat Jan 17, 2004 22:57 
 16   French schools are anti-religious... in a liberal Catholic kinda way     Eoin Dubsky    Sat Jan 17, 2004 23:31 
 17   Well Duh!!     Helal ben Shahar    Sat Jan 17, 2004 23:40 
 18   A balance between two freedoms     Ninette    Sun Jan 18, 2004 00:23 
 19   Some women *choose* the hijab     Phuq Hedd    Sun Jan 18, 2004 01:05 
 20   No going back     Daniel    Sun Jan 18, 2004 01:17 
 21   What a coincidence     mockle    Sun Jan 18, 2004 12:06 
 22   God and Freedom     Ninette    Sun Jan 18, 2004 13:12 
 23   Fashion victims     Moore Street    Sun Jan 18, 2004 14:16 
 24   i've counted amongst my friends women who chose to wear and ·not wear· the Hijab.     iosaf    Sun Jan 18, 2004 16:37 
 25   SW which?     Oops    Mon Jan 19, 2004 04:49 
 26   Nothing surprises me     Mike    Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:45 
 27   Disgusting Slogans on SWP placards     SWP&Islam    Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:08 
 28   Anti War Movement always racist     Leon    Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:23 
 29   SWP pandering to islam     me    Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:28 
 30   SWP: Iraq war is war on islam     Khalid    Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:42 
 31   Me is Mistaken     Leon    Mon Jan 19, 2004 13:21 
 32   Headscarves     Janus    Mon Jan 19, 2004 13:29 
 33   Headscarves     Khalid Farouk    Mon Jan 19, 2004 13:30 
 34   not about secularism     Dave    Mon Jan 19, 2004 13:35 
 35   dave     pat c    Mon Jan 19, 2004 13:38 
 36   socially forced     Khalid Farouk    Mon Jan 19, 2004 13:47 
 37   We support the ban     Paddy McGinty    Mon Jan 19, 2004 23:00 
 38   Statement deleted     mockle    Tue Jan 20, 2004 01:54 
 39   Stop moaning, organise     Mike the trot    Tue Jan 20, 2004 15:16 
 40   Organisation of Women’s Liberation-Iran     Organisation of Women’s Freedom in Iraq    Tue Jan 20, 2004 16:12 
 41   First they came for...     Pastor Newbie    Tue Jan 20, 2004 17:07 
 42   first     pat c    Tue Jan 20, 2004 17:18 
 43   Me     Me    Tue Jan 20, 2004 21:45 
 44   Thongs     mise    Tue Jan 20, 2004 21:50 
 45   school garb isn't innocent     Shaun    Tue Jan 20, 2004 22:17 
 46   all about individual choice     .b    Wed Jan 21, 2004 03:15 
 47   Fashion victims     nologo    Wed Jan 21, 2004 04:15 
 48   Teachers who victimise students     Leon    Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:26 
 49   Amongst those who supported and opposed Saturday's mobilisation in Paris.     iosaf    Wed Jan 21, 2004 15:57 
 50   Leon     B    Thu Jan 22, 2004 01:46 
 51   just to add...     B    Thu Jan 22, 2004 01:58 
 52   Religion is bullshit     MrDisco    Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:33 
 53   Debate Began in the "english speaking world"     iosaf    Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:47 
 54   Gay, Anarchist, Pagan supporting religious freedom     Paul in Cork    Thu Jan 22, 2004 13:43 
 55   bi, libertarian, agnostic opposes religious oppression of women     pat c (not in cork any longer, thanks be to darwin)    Thu Jan 22, 2004 14:06 
 56   the ban     Anto    Thu Jan 22, 2004 14:41 
 57   Equally stupid     bellestars    Thu Jan 22, 2004 16:19 
 58   Religion, the opium of the masses. Karl Marx     Caspian    Fri Jan 23, 2004 03:51 
 59   Ban the Dreadlocks     i'm a mod    Fri Jan 23, 2004 17:16 
 60   lastnight we had an appointment with a young muslim woman in the centre of a european cty.     european    Mon Jan 26, 2004 15:58 
 61   Hijab: To wear or not to wear? My Choice!     You have nothing to lose but your chains    Wed Jan 28, 2004 17:36 
 62   Question     Joe    Wed Jan 28, 2004 17:44 
 63   Hijab: To wear on not to wear!     You have nothing to lose but your chains    Thu Jan 29, 2004 00:14 
 64   Hijab: To wear or not to wear!     You have nothing to lose but your chains    Thu Jan 29, 2004 00:15 
 65   Socialists stage Saudi protest     Hebe    Fri Jan 30, 2004 14:52 
 66   ...What?     Jasmine    Thu Oct 21, 2004 22:47 
 67   hijabs     Voice of Reason    Fri Oct 22, 2004 09:58 
 68   Vive La France     Axel    Tue Mar 01, 2005 18:11 
 69   All Symbols of Oppression Must Be banned     toneore    Wed Mar 02, 2005 07:35 
 70   Let me guess     Shelock Holmes    Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:29 
 71   hijab     no shit...    Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:25 
 72   Lets sort out our own back yard     St Jude    Wed Mar 02, 2005 13:48 
 73   about wearing the hair cover or (hijab)at schools in france     mariam okasha    Thu Dec 29, 2005 17:51 
 74   follow     mariam okasha    Thu Dec 29, 2005 18:08 
 75   Sorry miram.     .:.    Thu Dec 29, 2005 18:15 
 76   Dear .:.     R. Isible    Thu Dec 29, 2005 19:42 
 77   Dear Risible     .:.    Thu Dec 29, 2005 22:05 
 78   I don't see that at all.     R. Isible    Fri Dec 30, 2005 01:40 
 79   its the offering of choice (in certain knowledge of which choice will be made)     .:.    Fri Dec 30, 2005 15:25 


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