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International - Event Notice Thursday January 01 1970 1916-2016 : 100th anniversary of the Easter Rising.
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Wednesday February 19, 2014 22:11 by Sharon. - Individual.
The RSF Easter Commemoration to mark the 100th anniversary of the 1916 Rising will be held in Dublin on Saturday 23rd April 2016. “The build-up to Centenary of the 1916 Rising is rapidly developing into a battle over not only how we view our past but also the vision we have for our future. We begin the countdown to 2016 and in doing so set out the relevance of 1916 for the Ireland of today....." Hi! |
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Hi Gerry!
The 'contributions' of both Collins and de Valera are well recognised by republicans. Of that you can be sure.
Also, while I'm at it, could I suggest you continue to 'think the unthinkable' about Collins on this 'Indymedia' thread -
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/104965
-I'm sure your input would be invaluable. And probably appreciated.
Thanks,
Sharon.
Will citizens of other countries (other than British) be welcome to join the parade and other festivities?
Hi Bill!
Citizens of other countries (including British citizens) will be most welcome to join us at, for instance, the GPO on that Saturday ( 23rd April 2016) and at whatever other events will be taking place and, indeed, we actively seek them out in the crowds at street commemorations etc as we find that they seem to really appreciate the leaflets, pamphlets etc that we hand out to mark the occasion.
Fáilte / Welkomma / Welkom !
Thanks,
Sharon.
a big thanks to the organisers for their effort in this.
I'm looking forward to it
Hi Gary!
Thanks for the favourable comment - appreciated!
The RSF-sponsored website at the 'Related Link' , below, may be of interest to you (and others) and no doubt we will see you (and others!) on a picket, protest and/or commemoration between now and then.
Thanks again,
Sharon.
Hello
I am an Irish American. My great grandparents came from sligo. They immigrated to New York around 1900. My irish roots are verry importent for me. Read alot irish history. I was a few times in Ireland.
I am planning to travel to Dublin for the 100th anniversary of the easter rising.
My question is:
When exactly are the anniversary parade's ect.?
On march 28 easter monday? Or April 23 (easter rising Day)?
Ich hope you can help.
John
Oh, sorry i mean April 24 (easter rising Day)
John
Hi John!
Thanks for the contact.
Although the actual rising itself began on the 24th April in 1916, the above-mentioned committee have decided that they will commemorate same, in Dublin, on Saturday the 23rd April, 2016, to facilitate other commemorative events which will be taking place, and those attending are requested to assemble at the Garden of Remembrance in Parnell Square from 1pm, from where a parade will leave at 1.45pm for the GPO in O'Connell Street, on that Saturday (23rd April 2016).
Hope this clarifies the matter for you,
Thanks again,
Sharon.
Thanks for the Information sharon.
Ill be going twice ( Double celebration:-) ) to Dublin. First on easter.then in April to the official easter rising Day. Will be a great Ireland vacation!
John
Hi again, John!
If you make it to Dublin for Easter 2016, John, make sure you are not hoodwinked into attending an Easter Rising commemoration at the GPO or elsewhere organised by false prophets ie at which British 'royalty' and/or State politicians are present - both of those groups are representative of those that fought against the men and women of 1916. But you will be in good company if you can make it to the GPO on Saturday 23rd April 2016 - a smaller gathering, without a doubt, and not as much 'pomp and ceremony' as you'll get from the "official" outing, but you won't feel the need for a shower afterwards!
Thanks,
Sharon.
Sharon,
My wife and I are planning to be in Ireland for the 100 yr remembrance in 2016. I have been to Ireland several times and am looking forward to coming back. I would like to be able to have a list of events that a man of republican beliefs would like to attend. Coming from America, it is always a bit confusing to get to the right places, run by the right people. I am sure you understand. We will be doing our usual B&B lodging thing I imagine, but that is still up in the air. Any advice from you or others would be wonderful
Thanks
Joe
Hi Joe !
Thanks for taking the time to read this thread and to leave a comment on it - appreciated!
The best advice I can offer re your post is , as stated above, 'beware of false prophets' - there are groups here with deep pockets but who are shallow where it matters in relation to 1916 , and they will be organising activities ranging from airplane fly-overs across O'Connell Street to block-booking theatres for weeks on end and, whereas they have the financial substance to do that, they lack the moral substance as, in this instance, they will be preaching a 'do as I say and not as I do' gospel re 1916.
For now, Joe, you could keep an eye out for information updates on this thread and on the 'Related Link' mentioned in the opening post, and have a read about the relevance of the centenary on the 'Related Link' , below. I hope you and your wife make it to Ireland as planned, and that you enjoy your visit - I'll look out for ye on Saturday 23rd April 2016, at the Garden of Remembrance and/or outside the GPO. There won't be any red carpet there, Joe, no fly-overs or theatres block-booked, no hypocritical politicians or so-called 'dignitaries present, but it will be an honest affair, with genuine republicans in attendance.
And you and your good wife are more than welcome to join in!
Thanks again, Joe ,
Sharon.
Thanks Sharon for the info.
We are simple people, we need not a flyover or fireworks. I would prefer to reflect in silence with others who understand the struggle. I have no doubt we will make it there whereas I have been thinking about this for many years. We wont be hard to spot, An Irish man that looks like Clay Morrow from SOA and his Portagee Wife, both wearing the coveted Fenian Claddah rings :) . I will follow this post and hopefully gather enough info to make wise choices.
Thanks again
Joe
Hi again, Joe!
And it's a 'simple' commemoration that will be held at the GPO in O'Connell Street on Saturday, 23rd April 2016 - substance will win out over 'style' (ie no "flyover or fireworks") but all the more meaningful because of it. I hope you and your good wife can share those moments with us to commemorate this 'unfinished business'.
Thanks again,
Sharon.
Hi May i make a humble suggestion , the first man who died during the 1916 rising was a an irish comrade whose name was abraham wix , i believe he died in the GPO, and also daniel sugarman or sweetman who organised arms for Michael collins.
Both these men were proud irish men of the jewish fate, and history seems to have forgotten these men maybe because after the 2nd world war a lot of irish jews returned to Israel/Palestine.
Regardless of our individual feelings we have on the Israel /Palestine conflict ,i myself have lived there for a number of years and shall remain impartial on the subject, but should we not in the interest of all our people both catholic , protestant and dissenter have some type of acknowlodgement for the families of the above people whose lives were lost for the independence of out state.
kind regards Jason
Hi Jason!
Thanks for taking the time to read this thread and to leave a comment here - appreciated.
I don't believe that it's correct to say that "history seems to have forgotten these (Jewish) men..." as they and their comrades are commemorated, acknowledged and remembered each year at Easter, regardless of which religious faith (if any) they were members of.
I myself would not be "impartial" in regards to the conflict you mentioned, but I do respect your right to be so, if that is what you want.
Thanks again, Jason,
Sharon.
Hi!
'Never put off until tomorrow...'
Those who don't know if they'll be available in 2016 might be better able to plan for next month : see the 'Related Link' , below.
Thanks for reading,
Sharon.
Being born in Scotland and not Catholic, I went too a non de nominal school, family were celtic supporters and being at celtic park since the age of 8 I learned how celtic were formed from irish decendency, I then studied the history of the famine days and the exodus of irish people to glasgow, I found the plight of these people harrowing. This made me more interested in irish history and moved on to the 1916 uprising, studying mostly James Connelly with his socialist views. Reading stories of suppression and brutality at the hands of English imperialism, this made me even more entriqued to carry on my now installed passion of the plight of the Irish republican movement , even right up to the present day, my Irish friends I have gained over the years mean as much to me as my passion for a United ireland. My friends from Belfast to cork call me the new James Connelly !! Having met with strong republicans like joe Cahill and Gerry Adams, and republicans who have lost there life's over the past 100 years.
I have just booked my hotel in Dublin for a week in easter to take In your easter parade. my heart will be full of passion that day, and my eyes full of tears! Remember with dignity and pride for these brave people !
Hi Brian !
Thanks for taking the time to read the thread and to leave a reply - much appreciated.
The RSF commemoration on Easter Monday next (6th April) will be a small(ish) and dignified affair, but it will be genuine - it's not being held to provide a platform for any career politician or to promote any political party, but to provide a platform and promote the ideals and objectives of the men and women of 1916. I hope you enjoy your stay in Dublin, and look forward to hopefully meeting you at the Easter Monday commemoration.
By the way, Brian, the 'Related Link' , below, if clicked on, will take you to a short piece on James Connolly authored by one of the Irish republicans that will be present at the commemoration.
Thanks again for your 'company' on this thread,
Sharon.
April 23, 2016 does not fall on a Saturday, since Easter Sunday is on the 27th. Did someone hit the wring key?
Hi Sarandi!
The 23rd of April, 2016, is indeed a Saturday - I think maybe you are confused in that Easter Sunday in 2016 falls in March (27th), not April.
You either hit the 'wring key' yourself or you believe you are basing your calculations on the timeline as you imagine it to be in Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil.....
;-)
Thanks anyway,
Sharon.
Hi Sharon, many thanks for the reply and the link to James Connelly, my wife and I would certainly like to meet you next year, should be recognisable as would like to carry the saltire flag to represent connelys birth place in Edinburgh ! Only if not frowned upon !!!
Hi again, Brian!
That's a date, then - I'll introduce you to the lads and myself and the other girls will take your lovely wife on a tour of Dublin , for a few hours, after our work is done. Guarantee that the two of ye will not have seen the likes of it on any 'official' tour!
And by all means, bring the Saltire - a welcome and deserved addition to our Irish flags and banners.
Slán go foill anóis,
Sharon.
Can be viewed, full size, at the GPO, Dublin, Easter 2016!
Scotish , English and Welsh republicans should be made very welcome by republicans at next year's 1916 commemoration , and it would be churlish to object to the Saltire being flown . But remember that the Saltire , like England's St George's Cross, is a nationalist flag, not a republican one.
see this wiki entry for instances of the cynical use of the Saltire by the British military: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Saltire
"Challenger 1 tank of the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards flying a Saltire from the whip antenna.
Royal Navy Sea King Mk5 of HMS Gannet.The seven British Army Infantry battalions of the Scottish Division, plus the Scots Guards and Royal Scots Dragoon Guards regiments, use the Saltire in a variety of forms. Combat and transport vehicles of these Army units may be adorned with a small, (130x80mm approx.), representation of the Saltire; such decals being displayed on the front and/or rear of the vehicle. (On tanks these may also be displayed on the vehicle turret).[30] In Iraq, during both Operation Granby and the subsequent Operation Telic, the Saltire was seen to be flown from the communications whip antenna of vehicles belonging to these units.[31][32] Funerals, conducted with full military honours, of casualties of these operations in Iraq, (plus those killed in operations in Afghanistan),[33] have also been seen to include the Saltire; the flag being draped over the coffin of the deceased on such occasions.
In the battle for "hearts and minds" in Iraq, the Saltire was again used by the British Army as a means of distinguishing troops belonging to Scottish regiments from other coalition forces, in the hope of fostering better relations with the civilian population in the area south west of Baghdad. Leaflets were distributed to Iraqi civilians, by members of the Black Watch, depicting troops and vehicles set against a backdrop of the Saltire"
Hi Joe!
Good advice re the Saltire, Joe, as it has (like all flags) been 'misrepresented' on occasion but, in this instance, that can be counteracted / prevented by a simple announcement from the stage to the effect that it is on display as a mark of respect to James Connolly.
And who knows - maybe the organisers will let Brian say a few words about it from the stage!
Thanks,
Sharon.
Hello Sharon,
We just booked a trip to Dublin to attend your parade. ( YES REALLY !! ) Unfortunately our plane will be at the airport at 11.50 ( if everything goes well ) I hope we will make it to the Garden of Remembrance on time. If not - can you give us the route ? So we can join in a bit later if our plane is delayed or something else ? I can't wait to be there..... Greetings from Holland.
Hallo Valeria en bedankt voor de reactie! ('Hello Valeria and thank you for the comment!' - I think....!)
You're very good for making such an effort, Valeria - it's really appreciated, thank you (and I hope we don't disappoint you). You and yours will be more than welcome on the day - as I said, above, our commemoration won't have the 'bells and whistles' that State-funded groups will have, but it will be a genuine and sincere event.
If your plane manages to land at about 12 noon (Irish time!) and our parade leaves the Garden of Remembrance at about 1.45pm (Irish time, again!) you should make it from Dublin Airport in time. It's practically a short, straight walk from the GOR to the GPO - about 15 minutes from one location to the other, as can be seen on the map image. Or, if need be, you could go directly from the airport to the GPO.
Either way, I hope to see ye there.
Thanks again, Valeria, your efforts are appreciated.
Sharon.
It's about a 15-minute walk from the GOR to the GPO (even allowing for 'Irish Time'!)
Hi Folks,
Could anybody tell me please of Commemoration plans for Sunday 24th april 2016 in Dublin ?.
Brian.
Hi Brian!
I believe that Leinster House representatives intend to lay a wreath at Arbour Hill on Sunday 24th April 2016, but details are hard to come by. You could phone Arbour Hill on 01-4724000 and inquire re same but, either way, you and yours would be welcome at the GPO in O'Connell Street on Saturday, 23rd April 2016 !
Thanks,
Sharon.
Hi Sharon,
Many thanks for your prompt reply, I feel a Commemoration on the 24th April would be the more " Genuine " commemoration. The one in March has been " Hijacked "
by " Hypocritical Politicians " and the State. As somebody else has already stated here " These groups are representative of those that fought against the men and
women of 1916 ", Think that's a very true statement.
Brian.
...republicans based outside of Dublin have their own (local) events planned for that date, but would be able to get to Dublin on the 23rd.
Hi again, Brian!
The '23rd/24th' issue was, I'm told, debated at length and the organising committee decided on Saturday 23rd (of April, 2016) due to the reason stated above. Too much to be done, too little time!
Thanks,
Sharon.
Hi Sharon,
Thank you for answering my questions, Think I would prefer to be in Dublin on 23rd, 24th April rather than attend the March Commemoration,
Again Sharon many thanks for your help-might see you there.
Brian.
Hi Sharon,
Thank you for answering my questions, Think I would prefer to be in Dublin on 23rd, 24th April rather than attend the March Commemoration,
Again Sharon many thanks for your help-might see you there.
Brian.
Hi Brian,
You're welcome for the little help re Easter 2016 that I can offer here - it's heartening to see such interest in these times of 'plastic-X-factor' and other such lowest common denominator TV. Good to see that some people have their priorities right!
Thanks again,
Sharon.
Hello. Im looking to get info for basic costs and whatnot for the Dublin area during the Easter Rising Commemoration as well as the remainder of Ireland for such things as general ballpark for motels, B&Bs, Guest houses / Hostels as well as Petrol and food. Can you please share any recent prices I should expect to encounter during April 2016. I know ya dont have a crystal ball, so ball park works great. Thanks
Slan
Gary
Hi Gary!
I hope readers prove me wrong, but I doubt very much that you could get away with paying "basic costs" for basic accommodation in Dublin during Easter (or, indeed, during the first six months of this year) - horror stories abound in relation to how prices for rooms, food, drink etc increase in proportion to an event being held here, and I don't expect that those who increase their prices will behave any differently leading up to and during the 100th commemoration(s) of the 1916 Rising.
I'll ask around, Gary, and if I find any bargains I'll post details re same on this thread - meanwhile, you should also leave a similar query on both of these 'Facebook' pages, as they are administered by the organisers of the 23rd April 2016 national commemoration;
https://www.facebook.com/events/459999270838367/
https://www.facebook.com/Republican-Sinn-F%C3%A9in-3124...0517/
Thanks for the visit, a chara, and I hope you (and yours) can get here and that ye enjoy the visit.
Sharon.
I believe there will be an exhibition of memorabilia somewhere, sometime in Dublin. Do you have any knowledge of this Sharon? We have a couple of medals and an account of our father's contribution in the Western Command which might be of interest.
Hi George!
Thanks for taking an interest in this thread, and for your comment - appreciated!
This is of no use to you now, I know, but an exhibition and valuation of Easter Rising memorabilia was held a few days ago (31st January) in the Gresham Hotel in Dublin but...the good news is that another such event will be held in that location on the 13th March next (more details here - http://antiquesandartireland.com/2016/01/easter-rising-...ions/ ).
Also, this organisation - http://www.inspiring-ireland.ie/contact - and/or - http://www.inspiring-ireland.ie/about/our-project - are seeking
"...objects from personal collections. Through a series of 'Collection Days', the public can bring treasured objects from 1916 to be digitised, recorded, catalogued, preserved for the long term..." , plus you could try Whyte's Auctioneers of Molesworth Street in Dublin (01 6762888) and Adam's Auctioneers, St Stephens Green, Dublin (01676 0261).
Hoping the above is of some use to you,
Sharon.
so are Sinn Fein at the GPO on the 23rd or 24th of april the exact date ??......and some written are non Irish welcome from other nations etc other than Britain ???.....I'm from the U.K. of Irish descent and I will be attending at the GPO on whatever date it is ...my ancestors were here then and it's right to honour that ....as so many others from the uk will be coming I have no doubt about that ....but an excact date would be nice ...or is it in keeping with the authenticity of Eoin O'Neill calling the official easter Sunday off and Pearse and Connolly overriding that order from command and proceeding on the Easter Monday ??....an official date and time would be appreciated by all who are travelling over for this one .....otherwise you no different to the ones who organised the hooley on the state one in march this Easter ???
Hi Joxer Cat!
On Easter Monday next (28th March) the Dublin Executive of RSF will hold their usual Easter Commemoration at the GPO , after assembling for same at 2pm at the Garden of Remembrance and marching down O'Connell Street to the GPO.
On Saturday 23rd April next, the RSF 'National Centenary Committee' will hold its Easter Commemoration at the GPO, after assembling for same at 1.45pm at the Garden of Remembrance and marching down O'Connell Street to the GPO.
Hope this helps you and yours with your planning and arranging etc.
Thanks,
Sharon.
Dia Dhuit Sharon ,
thanks for that Sharon ..I was a bit confused.com on that one ...it's important to us that we commemorate and celebrate what happened in Ireland's history ....but 100 years on we are in history now ..all of us and families and generations the world over have a story to tell . This gathering will be important to each and every one of us , as will families in the next 50-100years time !.
aris Sharon , go raibh mile maith agat mo chara agus slan leat go foil ! xx
mise
Joxer
see you all there !
Hi again Joxer Cat!
You're most welcome - glad I could be of some assistance. And it is important that republicans do what they can to mark this occasion in a respectable manner and leave a 'footprint' for future generations, lest those down the (long!) road be led astray by one or other of the many charlatans that seem to descend on iconic historic moments like this.
Grma, agus slán go foill,
Sharon.
My daughter have practiced months for this special date. Please view this YouTube video of her rendition of 'Foggy Dew'. We need viewers who understand the special centennial celebration. Thank you for passing it forward.
Hi Mary!
Sung from the heart, with gusto - Fr O'Neill would be delighted with Angelina's performance!
Thank you for your post - much appreciated.
Sharon.
Hi Sharon at this present moment in time im reading the comments written on your web page, indymedia Ireland about the march taking place on the 23rd of April to commemorate the men, women, and children, who died before during and after this time. My family came from Longford and I have never been more proud of my heritage than I am at this time I wish I had a flower for each and every 1/ of them,i as many others are aware of what the people of Ireland have been subjected to over the years and it makes some of us sick to our stomachs I am aware that you are very busy people I will be on my own but would not miss this heart felt gesture to those who lost their lives for anything in the world and I would be very honoured if I might say hello, the tears just now are dripping onto my computer as its such an emotional time for all.
ps the prices for B.Bs have nor been to bad please take care and keep safe x
Hi Compq!
Thank you very much for visiting this thread and for taking the time to leave a comment - appreciated!
You are more than welcome to join us on Saturday 23rd April next on the parade from the Garden of Remembrance to the GPO, whether you are on your own or with a group - we look forward to meeting hundreds of others like you, on the day, from Longford and elsewhere!
We won't have red carpets or fancy fly-overs, but we are genuine in our intention and in our beliefs.
Hope to see you there,
Thanks again,
Sharon.
A North-Longford IRA unit, 1920's.
IRA memorial, St. Mel's Square, Longford Town.
Hi Sharon I thank you very much for your reply and for putting up the pics of Longford I most certainly will be there and I hope to say hi, again thank you from one very proud irish woman of descent
Hi again, Compq!
You're welcome, a chara and, from the feedback on this thread and from elsewhere, the only issue that might upset our plans for the 23rd is the weather. Everything else, thankfully, is falling into place nicely.
See you there!
Thanks again,
Sharon.
Saturday 23rd April 2016 - assemble at the GOR at 1.45pm for the parade to the GPO.
Hi!
RSF Head Office will distribute 2,000 items of printed material (sample of same, pictured, below) on the day, between the Ambassador exhibition hall/event centre and O'Connell Bridge. Those printed items have been assembled into 500 'packs' of four, and will be handed out, free of charge, on a 'first-up-best-dressed' basis between, approximately, 1pm and 3pm. Those attending are requested to assemble at the Garden of Remembrance at 1.45pm, and the parade will leave for the GPO at 2pm.
Thanks,
Sharon.
500 of these 'packs' of four printed items of a republican nature will be distributed in O'Connell Street on Saturday 23rd April 2016.
Why are the dissidents of RSF/Continuity IRA getting involved, sure 1986 was your founding date all of 70 years after 1916
Hi 'Genuine Question',
So-called "dissidents" have always been 'involved' ie the men and women of 1916 were the 'dissidents' of their day, as were those that went before them. And if you do have a 'genuine question', I'd like to hear it?
Thanks anyway,
Sharon.
Hi!
We had a successful and very well-attended commemoration in Dublin yesterday (23rd April 2016) at which between two and three-thousand people took part. Uniformed members of Na Fianna Éireann and Cumann na mBan were represented on the parade, which was led by a piper, two RSF Colour Parties and the Coatsbridge United Irishmen Republican Flute Band.
Galway County Councillor Tomás Ó Curraoin chaired the event, at which a member from both NFE and C na mBan spoke, and a wreath was laid by Irish republican Veteran John Hunt. The main orations were delivered by RSF Ard Chomhairle member John Joe McCusker and Uachtaran RSF Des Dalton.
Pics from the event can be viewed at the 'Related Link' below, and a full report will be published in the (special edition) May 2016 issue of 'Saoirse', which goes to print on Wednesday, 4th of that month.
Thanks for reading,
Sharon.
RSF National 1916 Commemoration, GPO Dublin, Saturday 23rd April 2016.
Here's to the next 100 years of RSF scrotes laundering diesel, robbing banks, drug dealing and money laundering. Such a benefit to our island huh?
RSF's many contributions to society
Hi Citizen!
Thanks for dropping by and depositing that load on this thread - much appreciated!
That " laundering diesel, robbing banks, drug dealing and money laundering.." take place is without question, but same is organised, directly or indirectly, from an establishment in Kildare Street, not Parnell Street. And with no benefit to citizens huh!
This citizen doesn't even know who it is that's fleecing him! Huh!
You tell him Sharon. But the real robbers are the EU who we are paying
back billions to for loans that aren't ours, who stole 97% of our fishing rights
and who, together with US hedge funds, are busy buying up all our property from NAMA on the cheap
making us beholden to foreign landlords yet again.
Yet again we have been betrayed by our own in government.
Hi citizen!
I agree with you - the big(ger) House in Brussels is politically populated by individuals of a similar mindset to those that inhabit the Kildare Street venue and, indeed, aren't there a few ex-residents from the latter now feathering their nests in the former?
Thanks,
Sharon.
Modern Irish gave up the sovereignty their forefathers died for.
It's important to celebrate what happened in 1916, especially bearing in mind what the precedent and actual government and part of the population did with the independence won by their forefathers.
Irish won their independence and sovereignty with blood an sacrifice. The heroes of 1916 would be disgusted to see that their descendants, when they had the choice of remaining independent during the Lisbon treaty "referendum" (a mock up one) chose to lose and give up their sovereignty to unelected technocrats in Brussels.
It is true that they first voted no, but to betray for good their ancestors on a forced second vote (proving that the EU is a dictatorship and their government just puppets).
After 7800 years of oppression, the descendants of the great liberators of Ireland spit right on their graves by throwing their sovereignty to the dogs just for preserving their material comfort (or the illusion of it as we see now).
Shame is too weak a word for those who did it.
Hi Bob!
You wrote that the "modern Irish gave up the sovereignty their forefathers died for" meaning that, in your opinion, our forefathers , who rose up at least 15 times in our history, including 1798, 1803, 1848, 1867 and1916, achieved sovereignty only for a later generation to 'give it up'. When did we achieve same, Bob?
You then wrote about what the politicians "and part of the population did with the independence won by their forefathers" , again implying that Irish sovereignty was obtained, but lost. I don't agree with you on that point. You stated that the "Irish won their independence and sovereignty with blood an sacrifice" but, while there is indeed, unfortunately, blood and sacrifice, we have yet to obtain our independence and sovereignty.
I would suggest, diplomatically, that your reference to "7800 years of oppression" is not the only typo in your post!
Thanks!
Sharon.