Meet your chicken meat

by Stuart Thu Mar 13, 2008 23:12

Do tell, Farmer Joe, where the plate waste goes? The landfill inputs are just too insignificant to account for the food and catering industry waste outputs - just watch and follow their waste collectors.

To quote recent regulations: "the use of mammalian derived proteins is currently prohibited in ruminant feed, with the exception of certain proteins believed not to pose a risk of BSE transmission . These exceptions to the definition of "protein derived from mammalian tissues" include: blood and blood products; gelatin; inspected meat products which have been cooked and offered for human food and further heat processed for feed (such as plate waste and used cellulosic food casings), referred to herein as "plate waste" ; milk products (milk and milk protein) ; and any product whose only mammalian protein consists entirely of porcine or equine protein."

So, in addition to chicken shit, feathers, dead birds, beaks and suffocated male chicks, most intensively-reared birds can and do eat a lot of crap.

by Farmer Joe Thu Mar 13, 2008 22:50

Slop waste.IE leftovers from resturant plates,cant be fed anymore to animals here.EU directives and all that... Pity actually as it was proably more healthy for pigs,than the stuff we feed them now.Anything a swine can eat so can we and vise versa.

by C McC Thu Mar 13, 2008 21:46

The 1st time I had 'chicken-style' Quorn, in a sauce, I thought the cook had forgotten that I was vegetarian & served me with chicken. It's easy nowadays to go veggie, or just eat less meat, saves money & environm't, healthy too if u eat plenty veg & fruit. Tofu & tempeh are grand too if u buy flavoured type, or marinate 'em.

by Stuart Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:50

All the regulation of cattle feed has intensified the disgusting practices involved in feeding poultry, and in cross-contamination between species. Essentially mammals should not legally be eating mammal products, with some exceptions (the products - blood, intestine, brain and floor washings - are hazardous waste if not fed to another animal, so the legislation is driven by money rather than science).

But poultry are free to eat chicken litter (the bedding, feathers, faeces, dead birds, all the male chicks and the beaks clipped off intensive birds), as are all mammals. Poultry are free to eat animal protein, abattoir and farm waste, and "plate waste", the slop collected from restaurant bins and food processing.

by Quornocopia - VeggiesRUs Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:15

Is meat usually eaten on its own without flavorings? Is your average piece of chicken meat not bland? Pork Suasages, Beef Burgers and the like contain as much extra flavouring as Quorn Products. If you want to beef it up a bit try marinating it in Marmite.

by eamo - self Thu Mar 13, 2008 02:06

is whey protein, apparently.

The ancient Greek chap who a doctor's oath of office is named after knew of the benefits of whey protein.

Cutting edge research is revealing just how good this stuff is for us , and how it keeps our skin and hair etc in tip top condition.

quorn is made from a fungus , and therefore not a good place to get anything much useful in the way of human nutrition .

Nuts are good , but a big tub of good quality whey protein means you can consume the needed materials for your cells.

by jacob Thu Mar 13, 2008 01:27

At least be bothered to know what the hell it is.
It's a double edged sword amigos. You want to eat more chicken, beef, lamb? They want to make a profit, and produce more.

If you don't care about animals, at least care about what you're putting into your body. You are what you eat, that's not just a cliche...

I was veggie for about 4 years, but now I sometimes eat fish, (caught by friends, not farmed)

So even if you don't want to be vegetarian, do you really have to eat meat every day?
Can you not take a few days off, and maybe use the money saved to buy organic, free range chicken to eat? It's healthier for you than the stuff pumped full of junk...

And yeah, I sometimes eat Quorn, but tasty it ain't.

As usual, the biggest power we have to change this is not lobbying or petitioning, it's deciding what we spend our money on, and what we put in our own bodies. If you're willing to eat cheap junk, that's what the market will provide. If enough of us demand better quality meat (and better treatment for the animals) then that's what we'll get. (you have to put effort into it, as well as demanding a system of enforcment.

otherwise, raise a few of your own chickens in a suitable environment, and feed em right, treat em right and get good quality eggs on a regular basis, and occasionally eat chicken you KNOW are on steriods and hormones.

It's NOT that expensive to eat a healthier diet, if you realise we don't have to eat so much, and if you cut out crap, and also, count better health as a saving on future medical costs etc...

my two cents.

by Kearney Vore Wed Mar 12, 2008 23:37

"Try Quorn, folks - tasty & cheap!" Aaah, no. It's not. Well, fair enough it's cheap. But are you seriously saying it's tasty? I mean, its the most bland taste you could possibly imagine. Would you (could you) eat it on its own? Without any flavouring or spices? Thought not. Its a foodstuff that's so unappetizing that its got to be mixed with other spices and flavours to make it any way edible. Now fair enough, committed veggies may be willing to endure this but don't try to persuade the rest of us its actually FUN and TASTY. Cos its not.

by Cael Wed Mar 12, 2008 22:32

Its revolting to treat other living being like this. Truly, we are still living in the dark ages - far worse in some respects.

by Ronoc Wed Mar 12, 2008 22:28

... here is a good documentary on what your talking about. Also covers some other areas of what we are eating and how supermarkets are f@cking farmers up the arse!!! Worth the watch, very interesting

by C McC Wed Mar 12, 2008 18:53

Don't think it can be healthy to eat meat produced with huge amounts of stress-hormones pumping through it. Free-range meat is better but expensive. Try Quorn, folks - tasty & cheap!