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Accumulated pain; depression and suicide.

category international | miscellaneous | opinion/analysis author Thursday November 25, 2004 22:01author by Michelle Clarke - Social Justice and Ethics - Please Report this post to the editors

The last time Suicide was raised on Indymedia, 27 people replied. Another article referred to the Father who felt such pain that he opted to set fire to himself in a solicitors office. This is about pain and it is my hope that this article written at a painful time in my life might initiate the word HOPE in the minds of vulnerable, saddened, people.

'We are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars'

Quotation: Oscar Wilde

The truth is that for some of us, while in the gutter, the stars can still be seen, but for others who often may be deemed by others to lead a privileged life, a time in their life may occur when the dark, star-less gutter comprises their life.

Be it of their own making or not, and who is anyone to assume the position of judge? - - they have reached that place where the dark mist seeps through their mind and thinking processes. The reality is as stark as a life or death route.

I have been there more than a few times and yearned for the blow that would give peace. I sought that inadvertent accident. I have stood watching the No. 10 bus, my mind focused on how wholly effective the method would be? There could be nothing worse than not attaining one's objective.

Characteristics, in my opinion, can influence the ultimate decision. In my case, I regard empathy as a prominent factor. To empathise, is to basically stand in another's shoes and it is this that proves each time the deciding factor. You see, from personal experience, the effect of suicide on those concerned, particularly the family and friends, and all who come in contact with the death by suicide, is both damaging and a life sentence.

The 'Holy Spirit' or whoever you choose can work in very mysterious ways:-

While I was living in England in the 1980's, I was a commuter, by train daily, to the City, where I worked. It was a hard winter and there was a lot of snow and frost causing major delays and cancellations on the trains. One day as I stood waiting to board an overcrowded, last train out of Liverpool Street, the train driver felt kindly toward me and invited me to join him in his part of the train. We chatted but interestingly the subject changed to suicide.

Before long I realised a perspective I never looked at. He angrily spoke of the selfishness of people who weekly threw themselves before the trains. He and his fellow train drivers had to deal emotionally, physically and otherwise with these harrowing events. This conversation, always remains with me albeit I know when things become so bleak, this rationality scarcely applies. However, if at all possible try and keep a level of empathy in mind.

My depressions have been violent and numerous yet every time I 'resurrect out of the ashes', I am caught in a near ecstasy of enthusiasm to ask why, seek further research and responses, to read more, to assist anyone as much as possible whom I feel may need help i.e. within the protection boundaries I must set for myself. Opportunities each time present themselves and it is these experiences that drive me on - I am constantly in search of any answer.

August 2001 - during a very disturbed yet enlightening period in my life. I found this and here I am November 2004 and content.

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Accumulated pain, Depression, Suicide     Michelle    Sat Nov 27, 2004 22:07 
   Christmas Time - the Paradox particularly for some young people     Michelle Clarke    Thu Dec 23, 2004 21:59 
   hello     pc    Thu Dec 23, 2004 23:08 
   Suicide: Reply to pc     Michelle Clarke    Sun Dec 26, 2004 01:10 
   Suicide - some strategies; there is hope in despair     Michelle Clarke    Thu Dec 30, 2004 21:43 
   anti-male discrimation is institionalised in marxist "Europe"     hui    Sat Jan 01, 2005 18:02 
   Reply to hui.     Jack Russell    Sat Jan 01, 2005 21:57 
   any one who opposes you crowd seem to be abused     retrovi    Sat Jan 01, 2005 22:31 
   ?     Bernadette    Sun Jan 02, 2005 02:49 
 10   Suicide: Article by Maeve Sheehan in Sunday Independent. April 24th 05     Michelle Clarke    Sun Apr 24, 2005 23:23 
 11   Some useful online resources..     Jon Glackin    Mon Apr 25, 2005 02:45 
 12   Michelle error     Kevin Walsh    Mon Apr 25, 2005 14:43 
 13   Awareness ... maybe the time has come to embrace a new culture!!!     Michelle Clarke    Tue Apr 26, 2005 22:52 
 14   Solution     Ray McInerney    Tue Apr 26, 2005 23:53 
 15   Interesting Response Raymond     Michelle Clarke    Wed Apr 27, 2005 20:36 
 16   Suicide victims' families call for action     Jon Glackin    Wed Apr 27, 2005 23:44 
 17   on suicide     sean    Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:17 
 18   Families of suicide victims seeking action     Michelle Clarke    Mon May 02, 2005 01:06 
 19   medicalisation of the human condition     sean    Mon May 02, 2005 13:40 
 20   wandering in nature and playing in public helps     dunk    Mon May 02, 2005 14:36 
 21   Reply to Dunk. Thanks for interesting web sites and comment     Michelle Clarke    Mon May 02, 2005 22:51 
 22   A belated response to Sean. I needed time to think!!     Michelle Clarke    Mon May 09, 2005 22:40 
 23   some thoughts     soundmigration    Tue May 10, 2005 03:39 
 24   Reply to Sound Migration     Michelle Clarke    Sun May 15, 2005 22:34 
 25   the myth of mental illness     sean    Mon May 16, 2005 22:48 
 26   Not so sure about black and white analysis     soundmigration    Tue May 17, 2005 00:48 
 27   in reply     sean    Tue May 17, 2005 10:50 
 28   Back to a suggestion.....     Michelle Clarke    Thu May 19, 2005 01:56 
 29   Suicide Revisited...This is a site with diversity of experience     Michelle Clarke    Wed Jul 13, 2005 03:04 
 30   Accumulated pain, depression, Suicide...In context of all Ireland     Michelle Clarke    Mon Mar 20, 2006 23:28 
 31   D Day: Will the Consultants converge with Minister for Health     Michelle Clarke    Wed Dec 12, 2007 18:46 
 32   Hardship @ the door once more. What can we do to stave off sadness     Comyn    Sun Dec 09, 2012 14:42 


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