A Christmas Letter To Micheal McDowell

by pc Fri Dec 17, 2004 20:35

doens't bertie look so dashing ? Deasy TD seems to be going on about that alot re illegals in America and older emmigrants in England has he had anything to say about "non-irish immgrants" etc? I did look before can't remember if i found anything probably not...

by redjade Sun Dec 19, 2004 14:56

New law on non-nationals may stop their Irish-born
offspring falling through the cracks, says Willie Dillon

TOMSO Adubu is an Irish child who inhabits a twilight world slightly beyond the radar of officialdom. Nobody claims a children's allowance to help feed and clothe him. His name is not on any school waiting list. Indeed, it is entirely unclear what will happen when he reaches school age. His mother's biggest fear is that he might be taken into care.

Angel Adubu is Nigerian. She was deported from Ireland last August in controversial circumstances, without her son who is now being looked after by two other Nigerian women. Both are single mothers and asylum seekers, which means they could potentially be deported themselves in the future.

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Sarah Benson of the Childrens Rights Alliance says: "We know that Irish children are being effectively deported." She argues that it is wrong to describe these children of immigrants as "Irish-born". They are Irish, she says. Pure and simple. "They are Irish children who have the same constitutional rights as you or I.

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by swp hater Mon Dec 20, 2004 12:51

Anyone hear how the swp march went at the dail or how many turned up?.

by RTÉ TV Mon Dec 20, 2004 17:10

50,000 Irish believed illegals in USA

RTÉ reports from Boston that many will not be home for Christmas because of the fear they may not get back
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Archived audio at:
http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/irishillegals.mp3 (1.2megs)

RealPlayer Video from RTÉ
http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/1220/1news/1news56_10.smil

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IOL.ie:
Blair, Ahern urged to lobby Bush on emigrants
28/11/2004
http://212.2.162.45/news/story.asp?j=125664470&p=yz5665y76&n=125665230

Tony Blair and Bertie Ahern should lobby US President George W Bush to relax laws which prevent Irish emigrants from returning home each Christmas, they were urged today.

SDLP Assembly member Eugene McMenamin called on the British and Irish leaders to use their influence with the White House to help illegal emigrants in the US from both sides of the border who are not able to return to their families each Christmas.

The West Tyrone MLA argued: “Many people across this island would love to welcome their loved ones home this Christmas from the United States, but unfortunately for many who are forced to live as illegal emigrants that will not happen.

“Many Irish people have travelled and set up home in the United States. The tight legislation to obtain a long-term visa, however, has resulted in many Irish people living in America illegally.

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Irish emigrants increasingly returning home
The New York Times
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/nation/10400016.htm?1c

They arrived as the New Irish in the 1980s and '90s, thousands drawn to a New York that glittered in family lore as a place where hard work could bring prosperity.

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Some immigrants are longtime illegal residents losing hope for legal status; they say they are being driven out by new security crackdowns that make it harder for those without valid Social Security numbers to drive, work or plan a future in the United States. Others who are naturalized citizens say the price in toil for health care and education is too high; they hope for a less exhausting life in a prosperous Ireland.

"It's the complete reversal of the American dream," said Adrian Flannelly, chairman of the Irish Radio Network in New York, who has served on an Irish government task force on returnees. The exodus from the city, he said, signals a historic shift in a relationship that is part of the city's backbone, inscribed in the subways and bridges built by Irish immigrant labor in past centuries.

by Gui Mon Dec 20, 2004 19:51

"They arrived as the New Irish in the 1980s and '90s, thousands drawn to a New York that glittered in family lore as a place where hard work could bring prosperity."


Sound like perfect neo-cons.

by Sinn Féin Wed Dec 22, 2004 16:42

22 December, 2004
http://www.sinnfein.ie/news/detail/7945

Sinn Féin TD, Seán Crowe has today said that the detention of non-nationals awaiting deportation was "effectively internment without trial" and "completely unjustified".

Speaking in Dublin this morning Deputy Crowe said: "The Irish Prison Service's latest annual report, published today makes for alarming reading. It shows that one-quarter of all people jailed in Ireland in 2003 were non-nationals. The vast majority of these were detained under immigration laws and were awaiting deportation. This is completely unjustified and is effectively internment without trial.

"Most immigrants come to Ireland in search of a better life for themselves and their families. The reaction of the Government and some elements of the media have been to portray them as spongers, criminals and welfare cheats. They are not criminals and have never been convicted of any criminal offence. Therefore they should not be held in criminal institutions.

by Barry Wed Dec 22, 2004 18:02

Of course there is also Reichs Minister McDowells handy wee piece of legislation concerning membership of an "illegal" organisation. There have been dozens of men imprisoned in the high security Portlaoise jail simply on a Gardas opinion. It only takes a senior Gardas opinion as to whether or not your a member of a so called subversive organisation to have you banged up for 7 years. No corroboration is necessary.

This is in fact internment and exposes the free states so called justice for the joke it is.

This only applies of course (and this is perfectly ok) if you dont support the Stormont Agreement. One victim of this virtual internment policy was a man in his 60s accused of possesing "grenade parts". The offending weaponry turned out in fact to be an old chair leg which was lying in his back garden. The gards stated that this piece of wood could conceivably be made into a handle for a deadly device. Naturally the SCC accepted this.

Another victim was little more than a kid in his teens who was convicted on membership due to "photographic evidence".
The evidence was in fact a family photo of the kid larking at a Halloween bonfire wearing a wooly hat and pointing a water pistol. Obvious paramilitary.

Then theres also the sick joke of a political show trial which was Colm Murphys experience in court. Colms solicitors are appealing on almost 40 grounds, the original trial being an absolute whitewash. McDowell as minister is responsible for that farce as well.

But a Gardas opinion is never wrong according to the minister. Perhaps we could hear the Gards opinion, as well as Mr McDowells on who bombed Dublin/Monaghan, if they are that unerringly certain on everything else ?

by tONY? Wed Dec 22, 2004 19:20

Quote: They are not criminals and have never been convicted of any criminal offence. Therefore they should not be held in criminal institutions.

Abject and utter rubbish. Ireland does not deport those who are legally entitled to be here.

If they are not LEGALLY here - then they it follows that they must be ILLEGALLY here.

It is for THEM to prove otherwise and not the courts.

by redjade Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:41

Bernard Allen TD, Fine Gael Spokesperson on Foreign Affairs has called for the US Ambassador be invited to appear before the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Foreign Affairs as early as possible in 2005, to discuss the detention and deportation of Irish citizens from the United States.

“The United States administration has the right to set its own immigration policies, and we must respect that right. However, I am concerned at the manner in which some Irish citizens have been detained and deported from the United States in recent months, and believe that this matter should be discussed with the US Ambassador at the earliest possible opportunity.

“In some cases, Irish citizens are being detained in prison for a considerable period of time before being deported from the US. Holding Irish citizens alongside those who have committed serious crimes appears excessive. Furthermore, detaining people in these prisons for two or three months before being sent home is causing considerable hardship and worry, both for those involved and for their families in Ireland.

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“I would also like to raise with the Ambassador the case of the many Irish people who are illegally resident in the United States. Their plight is especially poignant at this time of year as, although many of them have been resident in the US for many years, they are in a legal limbo. They find themselves unable to travel home, even for family funerals, and are also increasingly subject to blackmail due to their illegal status.”

by redjade Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:12

Map of 1980 US Census Numbers of Irish
( born in Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland)
Living in the United States...
http://foreignaffairs.gov.ie/policy/usab1.pdf

from:
http://foreignaffairs.gov.ie/policy/emigrant_taskforce.asp

by pc Thu Dec 23, 2004 17:12

from the emigrants task force report linked above the concept of "involuntary emigration" is a interesting one that I've never heard expresed like that before...

by Sinn Féin Thu Jan 06, 2005 18:30

Sinn Fein Councillor for North Belfast, David Kennedy, will at tonight's full meeting of Belfast City Council, raise a motion asking Belfast City Council to condemn the practice of the detention of asylum seekers in Prison facilities. Currently asylum seekers are held at Maghaberry, Crumlin Road and Hydebank prisons.

http://www.sinnfein.ie/news/detail/7952

by via unison.ie Sat Jan 15, 2005 16:26

The Minister for Justice has moved to regularise the residency status of some 17,000 non-national parents of Irish-born children who gave birth prior to January 2005.

It follows a recent Supreme Court ruling that effectively stated that immigrants of Irish born children did not have an automatic right to stay here.

Under the proposals non-national parents of Irish-born children of good character and who provide accurate details of their status can expect speedy approval to stay and work in the state for an initial period of two years.

The new legislation will make it necessary for such immigrants to make a declaration to abide by the law and to make every effort to become economically viable.

Achieving economic viability within the two years will almost guarantee that residency will be renewed for a further three years.

These immigrants will not be permitted to bring relatives from abroad under the scheme.

by redjade Sat Jan 15, 2005 16:50

Link for above post
http://unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=1321149&issue_id=11958

by redjade Sat Jan 15, 2005 16:54

Download the new application form
http://193.178.2.128/permission.pdf

Mr Michael McDowell TD, Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform, today announced details of the revised arrangements for the processing of claims for permission to remain from the non-national parents of Irish born children who were born before 1 January 2005.  The new application form to be used by applicants and an explanatory leaflet will be placed on the Department's website tonight.

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Applications will in general be processed in the order in which they are received.  Completed application forms must be returned by post to the Department by 31 March 2005.

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Your completed application form should be accompanied by the following documents:
• Original passport/National Identity card (not GNIB card) of the adult applicant
• Original birth certificate for Irish born child
• 2 passport size photographs of the adult applicant (each one signed on back)
• Evidence of continuous residence in the State since the birth of the child (utility bills, lease/rental agreements, etc)
• Letter from your Community Welfare Officer stating the period that you have been in receipt of welfare payments in the State
• If you have been employed in the State, details of that employment, such as tax certificate, letter from employer, etc

http://www.justice.ie/80256E01003A02CF/vWeb/pcJUSQ68MNEK-en