Ukraine. Yushchenko versus Yanukovych

by iosaf Sun Nov 28, 2004 15:08

The Holy See has said the move is further confirmation of the Pontiff's intention to promote
closer co-operation and ties between Roman and Orthodox Catholic churches. The remains are believed to be those of two 1st century common era saints, and had previously been under dispute as to their possession by both the Orthodox and Roman religious traditions.

The dead men were known as -
Gregory of Nazianze and John Chrysostom.
They worked as doctors of the church and recieved summary canonisation for their part in building the institutions of state and the titles "patriarch". As such these Saints Gregory and John are very important to orthodox believers from Moscow via Kiev to Ranelagh road.

Their remains were allegedly taken from Istanbul to Rome during the XIII century crusade.

If your family are in possession of any relics or human remains that might help the process of international understanding, solidarity and fraternal relations with the optional extra of free, open accountable and democratic elections just like you get for school class room rep...

Now might be the time to think about giving them back.

REST.

by Michael Fri Nov 26, 2004 23:25

Hi just saw a report about what's going on in the Ukraine (on arte, a French-German TV station like BBC Radio 4). On the news for the deaf last week, as the sign language presenter was supposed to communicate the election results she instead said "It's a fraud. He's not the president..."

When will people in RTE dare do something like that?

by iosaf - "recently returned from a short trip ukraine way" Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:41

now includes the Pope.
The Pope is polish.
great man, but represents an institution which really was very very anti-semitic you know. Though they don't like to talk about that anymore. No-one likes talking about the eastern front much anymore. Loads of people had hoped to forget it. But when I saw that picture of Viktor "the orange" with that blonde supporter in plaited tresses, hmmm.
Oh yes there are loads of blondes in the Ukraine. Hmmm. There is loads of radioactive acne as well. Get out of there quickly, europe, coz let's be honest, the Dutch aren't the right people to lead us into an ethnic conflict are they?

Vlad the Ras-Putin has spoken, the ancient contract holds, no occidental vampires welcome in Kiev.

and what pray tell did/will the Swp have to say? The lesson ought be, if you can't trust the Americans on Iraq, and you don't really trust them at poker, and you don't trust their elections, and you don't like their cinema, and you don't know your alien from your predator, then don't listen to them on the Eastern front. They never went there.
Millions of europeans did. including germans, rumanians, spanish and italians Millions of russians did including ukranians. And millions never ever came back.

The dollar will continue it's weak curve, but depreciating against te swiss franc rather than Euro which will pick up by evening time as investors suffer from "loss realisation" and it's allied problem "market leader illusion" and try and bail out the Japanese by monday morning. Fair play to you Putin, you trully are a "great leader".

by :-) Thu Nov 25, 2004 22:27

Ook president Poetin zei dat er een vreedzame oplossing moet komen binnen grondwettelijke kaders. Maar hij nam afstand van het EU-standpunt met te benadrukken dat men niet het recht heeft om zich van buitenaf te mengen in het verkiezingsproces in Oekraïne.

by pushing sarcasm to the limits Thu Nov 25, 2004 22:25

viktor won.

by the merrovinginvanjan Thu Nov 25, 2004 22:23

Celtic 1 Barcelona 1
Russia kyoto EU kyoto
EU terrorism Russia terrorism
€ = rouble - itch
read it in dutch @ the link

by brinkmanship sinks every boat Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:51

in the Hague.
today's declaration by the second candidate of two candidates that he had won the recent elections in the Ukraine will feature on the agenda.

niet privat glasnot

by iosaf Tue Nov 23, 2004 13:01

According to the European Union, Ukraine’s presidential elections did not meet international standards.

Dutch Foreign Minister Bernard Bot said each EU member-state would summon the Ukrainian ambassador to express concern about the outcome, which appears to have given victory to pro-Russian Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovich over pro-Western liberal opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko.

“All EU member states are going to invite the Ukrainian ambassadors to convey our feelings that in our view the second round does not comply with international standards,” Bot said.

“We are very concerned about the news we have had about the outcome,”

Mr Bot is the Dutch Man who does Foreign affairs for the EU.
http://itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=1482828&PageNum=0

Now Mr Bot is being busy on the Eastern Front, having issued three statements in the last cople of days on "our former Soviet neighbours".
As you know, some of our former Soviet neighbours are now so european that they can move freely throughout the EU and end getting killed in north dublin, or share a flat with the merrovinginvanjan in Barcelona. Others however have not been so fortuanate, and can only look forward to a life of grubbing on the steppes or perhaps selling their bottoms whilst living a life of a sexual slavery. This concerns the EU a lot.
And I'll tell you why. Just like Kev has told you on teh feature page about Dublin Corp. having lots of "capital" tied up in property, the former soviets have lots tied up in property too, about 3 trillion euros in what is still termed "dead capital". It's easier to sell a old red army nuclear bomb than a flat complex in Kiev, which is a great challenge for the sort of people Mr Bot represents.

read more about Mr Bot's representations at the Nederlands 2004 EU site, which is just like the one that made Ireland important for the first six months of 2004 except its in Dutch. The language they speak amongst themselves in Amsterdam.
http://www.eu2004.nl/